Have We Reached "Peak Truck"?
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This week, we speak with Brian Gordon from the Dave Cantin Group about whether the market has hit "peak truck" or not. Are buyers shifting to crossovers and back to sedans -- and if so, why?
TTAC contributor Matthew Guy and I also discuss oil-filter wrenches, and yours truly rants about dirty racing in NASCAR -- specifically, what happened in last week's Xfinity race at Martinsville.
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We thank Brian and Matthew Guy for their time, and Matt Posky for editing. Most of all, we thank you for listening!
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Tim Healey grew up around the auto-parts business and has always had a love for cars — his parents joke his first word was “‘Vette”. Despite this, he wanted to pursue a career in sports writing but he ended up falling semi-accidentally into the automotive-journalism industry, first at Consumer Guide Automotive and later at Web2Carz.com. He also worked as an industry analyst at Mintel Group and freelanced for About.com, CarFax, Vehix.com, High Gear Media, Torque News, FutureCar.com, Cars.com, among others, and of course Vertical Scope sites such as AutoGuide.com, Off-Road.com, and HybridCars.com. He’s an urbanite and as such, doesn’t need a daily driver, but if he had one, it would be compact, sporty, and have a manual transmission.
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- Forward Observer The last time I had a door off my truck I hung it from my Little Giant ladder. But I was only replacing the hinge pins.I'm sorry if this sounds smarmy or smug, I am working on my people skills. (My therapist says I have a long way to go to catch up with some of you.) Would smarmy and smug come in handy if I worked for an automotive dealership? (I wonder.)
- Arthur Dailey Auto 'journalists' should stop referencing the average new car purchase price and instead report on the mean price. We all understand that the glue of luxury vehicles and full size pickups inflate the average price.For me, 'affordable' hovers around the $35k mark.Under current N.A. standards, hatchbacks, stations wagons and non-luxury coupes are basically a lost cause.Personally I would like to see Canada convert to accepting vehicles that have passed the European standards, rather than adhering only to N.A. standards. That would allow for the importation of vehicles such as Dacias, Skodas, and yes more Fiats. Also some models for Japanese and Korean manufacturers that currently are not sold in North America. It may even help Mitsubishi in the Canadian market and allow for the return of Suzuki. Having more small, affordable vehicles available is not a bad thing.
- The original ToolGuy™ Doubt we will see any new vehicle in the low 20s unless it is an EV and Chinese but wouldn't count on that happening. Not against more affordable vehicles but don't foresee that happening in the immediate future.Jeffs do you do any research before making ignorant comments? We have brand new vehicles sold today in the low 20s including the Hyundai Venue that starts at $20,550.
- KwikShiftPro4X That ship has sailed. The new overvalued cheap/base car will be $30G.
- The original ToolGuy™ We have inexpensive cars already
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People are refusing to pay damn near six figures for a truck. Unless the prices come back down to earth, I can see sales taking a tumble. Some people are doing what I did: buy a used truck for when I need to do truck things, and a used sedan for daily driving. Some will say that this approach is too costly, but my two vehicles combined cost less than $50k. Time for people to stop looking exclusively at new vehicles and instead, let their less financially savvy neighbors eat the depreciation.
Peak truck will remain until automakers start building again the vehicle peak truck replaced: the full size, 4 door family sedan with a large rear seat and ample headroom - the main feature of the crew cab pickup - plus a big trunk. I have seen more than a few crew cab pickups with electric rolling covers on the bed, duplicating a locked trunk.